lancaster cockpit metalwork

[Guest]

Please can someone tell me what colour paint I should use on the framework of the lanc cockpit?

Thank you.

[Guest]

Are you talking of the inside shell of the cockpit or the canopy ?

Just thought I would ask Aidan ?

Laurie

[Guest]

I'm talking of the framework of the canopy Laurie - all those tiny strips of metal which hold the windows in (if that makes sense).

Actually while I'm on, having looked at this again, there is no way I can make masks to do this - it's beyond my skill level. Am considering getting some pre-formed masks. Does anyone know which masks work? My kit is the new Airfix 1/72 BOB dambuster's - a BIII special.

Thanks

[Guest]

Answering my own question.....

I just found this - http://www.creativemodels.co.uk/eduard_masks_172_lancaster_b_mkiii_dambusterairfix-p-32575.html

Are 'bought' masks recommended for people like me? (incompetent!)

Thanks

[stona]

Aidan pre-cut masks are a great time saver, particularly on something as complicated as a Lancaster. I used them on my 1/48 build......thank heavens.

The outside of the framework is in the camouflage colours, just follow the scheme through the "glazed" areas.

The interior colour is debatable. I did mine interior grey-green after the preserved nose section in the IWM.

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

Aidan pre-cut masks are a great time saver, particularly on something as complicated as a Lancaster. I used them on my 1/48 build......thank heavens.The outside of the framework is in the camouflage colours, just follow the scheme through the "glazed" areas.

The interior colour is debatable. I did mine interior grey-green after the preserved nose section in the IWM.

Cheers

Steve

Thanks for answering both question Steve. I shall order them.

[Guest]

Go on Aidan if I can mask the thing in Tamiya tape so can you. Actually the 1/72 Lancaster is the best canopy I have ever produced.

But you do need Le Loup magnifier specs. http://www.theloupestore.co.uk/Headband-Loupes/High-Grade-Headband-Magnifier-non-flipup.html. I use these they are made of optical glass & do not scratch & . I find the 1.85 mag. adequate for all things. You can get cheaper & they are.

Also use the American razors. http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/100-single-edge-razor-blades. The holder though used as a holder for scrapping glass with the razor also is a good steady holder when using the blades for model making. Found the blades are better than Morton blades/knives for certain jobs. One is for cutting tape when masking. The razor blades are much thinner than Morton blades & much sharper & have a much fine point. Also a plus double ended.

So Aidan what is it to be. Tape or masks. Actually it will be interesting to see masks. Some of the screen curves in 2 planes. You can stretch tape to accommodate. Do the masks stretch to take up the curves ?

Laurie

[Guest]

My apologies if I am stating the obvious but not everyone may have realised that you only have to mask the once on the outside. First spray the interior colour as a priming coat then spray the outside colour. The outside will be camoflage and the 'primer' colour will be visible inside the canopy.

Again apologies if everyone already knew this!

[Guest]

Go on Aidan if I can mask the thing in Tamiya tape so can you. Actually the 1/72 Lancaster is the best canopy I have ever produced.But you do need Le Loup magnifier specs. http://www.theloupestore.co.uk/Headband-Loupes/High-Grade-Headband-Magnifier-non-flipup.html. I use these they are made of optical glass & do not scratch & . I find the 1.85 mag. adequate for all things. You can get cheaper & they are.

Also use the American razors. http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/100-single-edge-razor-blades. The holder though used as a holder for scrapping glass with the razor also is a good steady holder when using the blades for model making. Found the blades are better than Morton blades/knives for certain jobs. One is for cutting tape when masking. The razor blades are much thinner than Morton blades & much sharper & have a much fine point. Also a plus double ended.

So Aidan what is it to be. Tape or masks. Actually it will be interesting to see masks. Some of the screen curves in 2 planes. You can stretch tape to accommodate. Do the masks stretch to take up the curves ?

Laurie

I don't have your skills Laurie - it's as simple as that. And I'm not about to practise on a 1/72 canopy! Perhaps I could send the canopy to you and you could paint it for me, by return?

[Guest]

My apologies if I am stating the obvious but not everyone may have realised that you only have to mask the once on the outside. First spray the interior colour as a priming coat then spray the outside colour. The outside will be camoflage and the 'primer' colour will be visible inside the canopy.Again apologies if everyone already knew this!

I didn't know any of this Richard - thank you.

[Guest]

My apologies if I am stating the obvious but not everyone may have realised that you only have to mask the once on the outside. First spray the interior colour as a priming coat then spray the outside colour. The outside will be camoflage and the 'primer' colour will be visible inside the canopy.Again apologies if everyone already knew this!

Bit thick ( me not you) Richard but no not understandee.

Laurie

[Guest]

My apologies if I am stating the obvious but not everyone may have realised that you only have to mask the once on the outside. First spray the interior colour as a priming coat then spray the outside colour. The outside will be camoflage and the 'primer' colour will be visible inside the canopy.Again apologies if everyone already knew this!

Apologies read again Ricchard & now understand.

Laurie

[Dave W]

The masks are a brilliant idea.Used them on a 1/48 Anson.Took .about a quater of the time to mask the canopy than if I'd used my usual Tamiya tape and scalpel method.Ive since bought some for my 1/48 Lanc and B24D.Highly recommended Aiden

[colin m]

I've used them a couple of times - great little things.

[Guest]

Apologies read again Ricchard & now understand.Laurie

Sorry Laurie, I was probably being very brief as I was worried that everyone did this anyway and would think was being condescending by mentioning it. I saw Stona say very recently that he paints the primer coat by brush but it is all the same either way. By putting the inside colour on first you make it visible on the inside of the canopy and therefore visible through the clear plastic. The top coat is then only visible on the outside. If you get this right it looks extreemly effective.

Its the same technique the RC car boys use on thier lexan car bodies where they paint the insides of the car body rather than the outside. It is soooo easy to get it in the wrong order when over laying colours!!!